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Postby Impossible » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:25 pm

What have we tried on the start map code? Letter word and/or Line word? Might want to rule out any connection between the two now.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:11 pm

Theres no words in it though. Not even spaces, just line after line of code.
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Postby Telephalsion » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:19 pm

Have you checked that pucked up code heap at start map?

it starts with what lookslike an insane mans flipped out keyboard smashing, then it says shorter version:




SHORTER VERSION

qANQR1DBwE4DtTAVq5jVdF4QAVsG04ZyMNhoVP+Ab7IfXzbFDE02tqRAPf+q
1U2T

(The: +Ab7If, part might be +Ab7lf.)

SWdBQyudS24rdhiM3/OkPDuR1bDn4hu8ILUeIv4hx+Lc8Z7pfqaPsOXQmNYI7gs
F

stvDyiAMs5O5uauiGj0Bq8CXEdWKYCrOBoPkvGpjrMrUuuq0vOrklEs7xDCo6kb
N

Z19tkwQAg742aQivdDHDqut5CJCnyAzjrwFJG126crQ+nsYXBeO6dS/lpebbjUmm

33qWvimfls9KcCrzyScRtsU20hAdSgdMhNzgKMA/ofIPmlsxcp48MwQWkVXtOui
m

/d45iim2cyNhJz7W7ZmTgDyIehGxZppM0o6ArTxGN0kwebka30zJJhmMdYhwPoj
K

qdk0n3JP1A7vPLyejnlhHP2IR9zuLQeDsRjINSeV
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can you make anything out of this? I'm too lazy to give you the long version that was there.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:44 pm

Thats what Impossible and I were just talking about. While it looks like Lun just got frustrated at somthing and smashed his keyboard a bunch of times, there are a bunch of simularites between the shorter and longer version, so its not just jibberish.
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Postby Teenr0cker » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:14 pm

Ah but the question is, how many times can one hit the shift key while in a rage? I've tested this and it's not too often. For scientific purposes, I say we decode it! :lol:
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:58 pm

I've also noticed that each code ends with = then 4 characters, probably not a coincidence, and these are the only = in the enitire code, so i think the last 4 characters must have some importance. Heres both codes:

Main Code:
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h7os

Shorter Version:

qANQR1DBwE4DtTAVq5jVdF4QA/sG04ZyMNhoVP+Ab7IfXzbFDE02tqRAPf+q1U2T
SWdBQyudS24rdhiM3/OkPDuR1bDn4hu8ILUeIv4hx+Lc8Z7pfqaPsOXQmNYI7gsF
stvDyiAMs5O5uauiGj0Bq8CXEdWKYCrOBoPkvGpjrMrUuuq0vOrklEs7xDCo6kbN
Z19tkwQAg742aQivdDHDqut5CJCnyAzjrwFJG126crQ+nsYXBeO6dS/lpebbjUmm
33qWvimfls9KcCrzyScRtsU20hAdSgdMhNzgKMA/ofIPmlsxcp48MwQWkVXtOuim
/d45iim2cyNhJz7W7ZmTgDyIehGxZppM0o6ArTxGN0kwebka30zJJhmMdYhwPojK
qdk0n3JP1A7vPLyejnlhHP2IR9zuLQeDsRjINSeV=meur
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Postby Wellsy » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:49 am

Anybody have an Enigma Machine? Teen's right, you don't usually hit the Shift key in rage, unless it's a fit of sadistic rage. I'm not sure how much I care though - for all we know it might just translate to "Thanks for your time. Here's a cookie." And it might as equally translate to "This actually is the final episode of the Way. I know it's not what you were hoping for but it's the best I could do." At the same time . . . anything with that messed up of a code has to be something interesting. At least it ought to be.
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:20 pm

That sticky keys thing gets in the way too depending on your system... you hit shift too many times and it pops up.
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Postby Telephalsion » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:15 pm

you can make the command for that function inactive...
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Postby Jabbo » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:54 pm

I've been looking into this a good bit lately, but I haven't been able to come up with anything. I have, however, found a few leads and observations that other people might be able to do something with.

First off, and I'll admit finding this was pretty lucky, is that this code appears to have something to do with base 64 encoding (see http://www.cotse.com/CIE/RFC/2065/56.htm). Basically, you take the ASCII values (65 = A, 66 = B, 97 = a, 98 =b, etc) of the letters in your message and convert them to eight-digit binary strings. Then you string all these binary strings into one long string and divide it into sets of 6 digits. You convert these sets of 6 into regular numbers and then change those numbers into uppercase and lowercase letters, pluses, and slashes according to the table at the provided link. Since Lun's code has both pluses and slashes, I think this is probably a valid method of approach to decoding.

The problem is that when you put this into a decoder (such as http://makcoder.sourceforge.net/demo/base64.php), it doesn't yield any sort of intelligible result.

Since base 64 uses sets of 8 bytes and converts them into sets of 6 bytes, = signs are appended to the end of encoded strings to even out anything that doesn't evenly divide. There's also always a single = sign at the end just because. I hypothesize that the = sign in Lun's code correlates to the = sign that occurs after base 64 encoded stuff.

There are two similarities between the long and short codes. The first is that they both have four characters that appear after the equals sign. My guess is that this is some sort of key (that's probably encrypted itself). The second similarity is that each code has the same eight initial characters. Base 64 encoding seems to work best in sets of eight; this may have something to do with it.

Moving into the realm of pure hypothesis, I'd guess that the A = 0, B = 1 chart in the above link is not the chart that Lun uses. Perhaps he starts at something else, like L = 0 or f = 0. I'd also hypothesize that the four characters at the end may have something to do with some sort of modification on the key code, and that this modification is applied after every eight characters.

If the four letters were a regular key of some sort that directly translates to the encryption process, then there's almost no way that the first eight characters of each version would be the same. That's why I think it's some sort of modification that is applied after every 8 letters.

And I just noticed that the first 9 letters are the same, so maybe the differences between the versions can be attributed to the fact that they're different versions. But if that were true, then the last four letters would have to be something like "Lun" since they're separated from the rest of the message. They're both different, though, so that can't be right. And the last four letters have to serve SOME purpose.

I'd bet that the key is hidden somewhere else in the game's code... but anyway, that's about as far as I can go. Hopefully someone else will have a stroke of genius that I couldn't come up with.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:59 pm

Well, we do have "CITADEL" lying around with no real use at the moment, maby thats the key. Dunno what to do with it though.
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Postby Teenr0cker » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:58 pm

I reccommend if you go out and try each value, it is suggested that you notice that the most commonly used vowel in the English language is 'E', so that might be a good place to start.
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Postby SpaceBoy2000 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:47 pm

Hmm, I searched qANQR1DBw on google, and guess what it gave me?

From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/legality- ... sage/15978

What is PGP®?

PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) is a computer program that encrypts (scrambles) a=
nd decrypts (unscrambles) data.

For example, PGP can encrypt the text "Private" so that it reads "qANQR1DBw=
U4DB". You can then send this garble to someone else with PGP who can then d=
ecrypt the garble so it reads "Private" again. (Return to the previous page.=
)


EDIT: After taking a look around Google, it seems that the random code block is a PGP key. Check out this link and see the resemblance
http://www.stormy.ca/sales/pgppub.html

I guess Lun was just screwing around with us.
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Postby PsychicK » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:56 am

So what we need now is a PGP Translator. Anyone here speaks PGP? :D
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:01 am

I just got it. Still need a key or somthing though.
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