BETA TOPIC: Why do people think that Kura is Rhue?

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BETA TOPIC: Why do people think that Kura is Rhue?

Postby Forerunner Traziun » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:45 pm

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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:17 pm

Because Kava called him Kura. And a bunch of supporting evidence I cant think of right now.
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:22 pm

You're not allowed to make any more threads... jera, make it a rule.
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Postby PsychicK » Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:48 am

Why not? This topic can be regarding Kura and Kava only, instead of letting this disappear like in the other threads.

When do you meet Kava? I still need to do the Lexus ending... There's Kavax, though. He calls Rhue Kura. Kavax=Kava?
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Postby Impossible » Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:14 am

Well, duh. It's far from the only rearranged/letter added/letter dropped name in the series... Sorya talks about its symbolism if you meet her in E6.
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Postby Escreon » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:56 am

And also the poems around where you get Lexus...
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:24 pm

You know, we should probably put together a list of everything. Everything we know about every important character, every important thing we've leaned from cutscenes, every little poem or nonsensical note on a piece of paper, every legend of myth we've heard of, it will make it alot easier for everyone to find impotant info that way, and will probably help us make better theories.
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Postby Telephalsion » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:57 pm

Pelase sort it into either episodes, or who it applies to. I'm to tired and lazy to do this :P
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:58 pm

I'll probably start it tommarow.
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Postby Dr. Casey » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:03 pm

Sage Of The Wise wrote:Everything we know about every important character


What's Rhue of Landorin? A major character, a secondary character, or a minor one?
sqpat17 wrote:Slade: Maybe the sword flew over and landed in his chest. "Oof! Stabbed by two shadow swords in one week!" Okay, maybe not.
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:50 pm

Still voting that he isn't allowed to make any more topics... and I may have to slap you Casey.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:06 pm

What's Rhue of Landorin? A major character, a secondary character, or a minor one?

Lets not make this more complicated then it has to be, Rhue is the main character of the game, Jeruh is Lyrra's brother, and Kura is a guy who killed his friend over a fight about a girl. Lets just leave it at that for now.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:44 pm

Ok, heres what I've done so far. I havent been able to do all the characters, and the ones I have done could still have more stuff added. And I havent done Rhue yet, I dont feel up to the challenge yet.

Characters:

Traziun:
Real name is Alagard.
Kalmar's Son.
Befriended Rhue.
Killed his father because he thought Kalmar killed his mother.
Upon finding out who really killed his mother, he took Rhue's shadow sword and killed himself, breaking the blade.
Kalmar's original "perfect blade"
Left the blood Lyn after not being able to complete a task his father gave him.
First of the 2 blood lyn to escape.
Lost in the Estana Tournement on purpose.
Note: Alagard is probably a reference to Alucard, Dracula's son who sought revenge on his father too and killed him.

Gaius:
Kloe's blood brother.
Kalmar's new perfect blade.
Second of the 2 blood lyn to escape, though probably did it under orders.
Helped Rhue kill Jeruh.
Wanted to do somthing to Rhue's sword.
Was able to sence Lyrra's death and Kloe killing Baller.
Doesn't want Kloe near him after he found out what she did.
Not harmed by Rhue's Sword.

Kloe:
Gaius' blood sister.
In love with Gaius.
Hired to work for Forman Baller.
Killed him becasue he cheated on her.
Was going to be exicuted by the Blana Sera, but escaped.
Knew Cetsa from childhood, got pushed into a river when they fought over Serena's necklace.

Cetsa:
Also known as Dancing Violet.
Leader of the Blue Scarves.
Captured by Slade and brought to Estrana.
Has Serena's pendant.
Pretended to be Serena so Rhue would help her.
Stabbed by Slade when she tried to help him.
Knew Kloe from childhood, pushed her into a river when they fought over Serena's necklace.
Knows Scatha from the past.

Strata:
Stole Dippy from Rhue before attackiing him and leaving him to die.
Pushed Rhue into the pits.
Saved Lyrra from the Blue Scarves and became heer boyfriend.
Champoin of the Estrana tournament.

Slade:
Shadow Foot.
Scatha's brother.
Thinks he knows Strata from somewhere.
Threw Scatha into the pits on his mothers orders.
Strongly Believes in justice.
Has a knack of having girls die near him, always blames himself.
Jumped off a cliff after deciding his life was a failure.
Stabbed Cetsa right before he died, because he wanted to do somthing for himself.

Dirk:
Knows Scatha from before her face was burned.
Went with Scatha to find Tetzel.
Says Forrunners don't exist.
"Closest thing to a Forerunner there will ever be"

Scatha:
Real name is Chasta.
Slade's sister.
Mother burned her face and had Slade threw her in the pits for having
inapropriete relations with a boy.
Knows Rhue from before he was known as Rhue.
Knows Dirk from before her face was burned.
Went with Dirk to find Tetzel.
Knows Cetsa from the past.
Claims to know Serena.

Lexus:
Obbsessed with Cetsa.
leader of the Estrana Blue Scarves.
Secret member of the Aristotzi, known as Red Zero.
Used Rhue in hopes of learning about Cetsa.
Fell in love with Rhue.
Accidently killed by Rhue during the Aristotzi invasion of City Hall.

Poems/Stories/ etc.

"The Mimic" by Kleunwrade
One who stole their names,
The child of Janwen's bane.
Darkness, shadow, death.
As long as it has breath.
Sacrifa:"The Mimic" is a legendary evil that is said to have imitated its victims. The Mimic killed people and then would pretend to be them. For a time the Mimic was the most feared being across the entire Way.

"Venge" by Kleunwrade
Scar upon the father's brow
Left by son, the disavowed
The shadowed depths below forsaken
Enter now our world, thy haven.
Sacrifa: Venge was supposedly a son of the Lord Below that came to the Middle Way in order to avenge the scarring of his father.
Rhue: The Lord Below was scarred?
Sacrifa: Yes, in a battle with Lyn who were weilding the Illuminati.
Rhue: Hmmm... (That's strange. The poem seems to suggest otherwise.)


"Kura" by Kleunwrade
Legend of the fallen world,
Betrayed for lust, a plan unfurled.
First to right a single wrong,
Then revenge, The Guided strong.
Sacrifa: The show we were in didn't go into what became of Kura. That's to be expected though. Most people focus on Kava and Luma. Did you know the entire Guided camp was massacred the night after Kava and Luma met their end? Most people believe it was Kava come back from the dead, to avenge himself and Luma. It's also said that a forest grew up out of the ground where the massacre occurred.

Untitled
The land beneath the sky
Echoes of the past decried
A lost love carried on
Words to a lonely song
Everyone must bleed
Truth hides hothing

Conversations/Cutscenes

Convo With Man in Red
Man: Welcome.
Rhue: Who are you?
Man: I don't know, Who are you?
Rhue: Adventurers.
Man: Ah, I know what it is you seek. The swords of justice... the Illuminati. They are not here. Indeed, one might suggest that they exist no longer.
Rhue: What?
Man: Actually they do exist, but they are not what they once were.
Rhue: Actually, I could care less about...
Sacrifa: Hold on Rhue, I would like to hear this man out. Tell me, what happened tothe Illuminati? And what do you know of this place?
Man: This will take some time... It was during the years that Janwen became a sprawling city that most note the disappearance of the Illuminati from history. During this time, the people of the land slipped under the sway of the Lord Below. It was not long before he came to reside beneath Janwen. The people of Janwen adored and worshipped the Lord Below. In places such as this they came to meet with his lessers and make deals.
Sacrifa: The summoning pits are here?
Man: Yes, they lie through the doors behind you. I see you are somewhat familiar with the terminology.
Sacrifa: I have studied Janwen quite extensively. Please, continue.
Man: The influence of the Lord Below grew in the land. Innocent blood flowed. The Illuminati slept. But then... An impetus suddenly began rolling through the outlying lands. The Illuminati were discovered and taken up once again. All, but one. They came to Janwen. And when they reached the city, they descended into the Pits to find the Lord Below, through the very passages you yourself have come. There, in the fiery depths of the Reaches, they faced off against the Evil One. Surely they fought most gallantly and victory must have seemed certain. They scarred the Evil One badly that day. But as the Lord Below was driven back, he conjured up a great power from the multitudes under his sway. In that desperate hour he unleashed a shockwave that decimated the auras of all living things for miles and miles around. The Illuminati vanished. Janwen burned.
Sacrifa: Kava kura, are you certain of these things?!
Man: Indeed, I am.
Rhue: I hate to cut things short, but we really have a lot to do.
Man: Yes, I grow weary of this as well. Watch your step though, some Lessers still abide in this place.
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:48 am

Definitely gonna need some cleaning up by the time you're done.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:01 pm

Definitely gonna need some cleaning up by the time you're done.

Yeah, they're still just in note form. You guys could help too you know.
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