Traz and "Rhue" plunge in E1

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Traz and "Rhue" plunge in E1

Postby Poenaensis » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:06 pm

In the Traz suicide ending, Traz destroys the sword because he made it contradict itself, killing someone who has done nothing "wrong". Whenever it's in rhue's hand and he tries to kill gaius, it doesn't work because the sword won't attack gaius, because he's done nothing wrong.

Therefore, howcome when Traz and Rhue plunge in E1 we don't have these sheilds sprouting every pass?
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Postby EmperorJeramyu » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:07 pm

They were sparring?
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Postby Poenaensis » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:09 pm

It's a good idea; perhaps the sword can read rhue's intent?
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Postby EmperorJeramyu » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:11 pm

Possibly, but if I remember correctly, the only time blood is actually drawn in a plunge is when Rhue accidently slicesRosmar. I guess this is another thing Lun could expound upon, but it seems like where someone loses a plunge, they're just "worn out" or something, not butchered apart.
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Postby Greatchickenman » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:21 pm

Rhue and Traziun were fighting with the blunt end of the swords.
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Postby Telephalsion » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:40 pm

What about Rhue VS Slade ep 5? Blood in teh face!
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Postby EmperorJeramyu » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:42 pm

More slipping of the blades? I mean, they were REALLY going at it. And it's not like the sword had an objection to killing Slade.
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Postby Poenaensis » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:44 pm

Rhue can kill the wanderes at the rabbit race, also he kills lyrra's father on request.
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Postby Jasonflare » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:45 pm

Rhue can kill the wanderes at the rabbit race, also he kills lyrra's father on request.


That's right. Why would Rhue/Kura's sword kill those innocent.
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Postby Poenaensis » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:48 pm

Does Lun? Even gods contradict themselves, look at the bible.
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Postby Forerunner Traziun » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:51 pm

You can fight other "innocent" people during the plunge for gameplay reasons. but about Jed, I do not know.
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Postby Telephalsion » Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:08 pm

Jed did say: End me, so Rhue didn't Kill him, he assisted Jed.
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Postby Greatchickenman » Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:34 pm

The wanderers at the rabbit race were attempting to harm him though, so I suppose the sword figured he was justified in his actions.
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Postby Terra » Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:39 pm

EmperorJeramyu wrote:Possibly, but if I remember correctly, the only time blood is actually drawn in a plunge is when Rhue accidently slicesRosmar. I guess this is another thing Lun could expound upon, but it seems like where someone loses a plunge, they're just "worn out" or something, not butchered apart.


There are other times, such as the Blood Lyn Plunge near the start of Ep 4, Slade's Ep 5 battle, and the Strata Finale. And don't forget the optional Ansgar Market Plunge.
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Postby Impossible » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:13 pm

Ansgar was kind of a dick, though. To me, Slade is the real hole, it doesn't make sense. I definitely think there's a deeper explanation to this than "the sword doesn't hurt the innocent". How innocent is Traziun? He WAS a Blood Lyn after all - and he's killed dozens of them, too, so it's not like he's never murdered, even if he was murdering bad people. So if Rhue shoved the sword into himself, would it also self-destruct? Maybe it feels regret from suicides? God, I wish that had been more clear. >_<
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