Rhue the who?

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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:00 pm

That was an.... interesting comparison.
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Postby yoreliter » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:02 pm

well, what about this comparison. you are holding a stick. attached to this stick are multiple strings, and one string is attached to the stick and attached to your neck. the other end of all the strings is attached to a tree. when you cut all the strings connected to the stick, is your neck connected to the tree?

no, i didn't think so.
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Postby Masked Gamer » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:03 pm

Think of it this way. If you have a box of say, silly hats, and you go out wearing one of those silly hats, and somebody takes your box of hats from you and burns it, are you no longer wearing that silly hat?


Well, considering that Gaius's intention in sending him to Dream Estrana was to dispell him of his "silly hat". I'd imagine that Ep6 took the hat and the box. After all, he realizes he's not rhue in the normal ending.
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Postby Thanatos » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:15 pm

But he doesn't know who he is, or was, either. He may acknowledge that he's not actually "Rhue" but his personality seems no different than it was for the past several episodes. So no, he still is wearing the silly hat. He just knows that the silly hat isn't his.

A pox on this analogy by the way.
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Postby Masked Gamer » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:14 pm

But his quest for Serena defined his personality. It shaped every choice he made for the entire duration of the series. Now that quest is gone.
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Postby Imoto » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:31 pm

That's a flawed analogy.

If we're to say all the strings are auras, and the stick is the sword, is it you or the tree that's the wielder? Also, If all the strings connecting to the stick are severed, the tree and you are still attached to the strings, but not the stick.
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Postby Thanatos » Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:46 pm

Masked Gamer wrote:But his quest for Serena defined his personality. It shaped every choice he made for the entire duration of the series. Now that quest is gone.


Goals don't define an individual's personality. Rhue is still Rhue, but now he's self-aware, and has no purpose.
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Postby yoreliter » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:57 pm

hmmm okay bad analogy. i forgt where its mentioned but it says that all auras of a shadow sword are connected to the user, just the main personality has a stronger connection. so if the sword is destroyed, then all the connections between the sword and user are broken, because the sword no longer exists.
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Postby Imoto » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:45 pm

It never says that anywhere.
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Postby Asra » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:35 am

Imoto wrote:It never says that anywhere.


The red haired chick talks about how the Shadow Swords work. PRETTY sure she says that all auras are connected to the sword, and theres on main connection with the original, but eventually as time goes by the other connections take over.
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Postby Asra » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:37 am

Requiem wrote:Rhue?
Not Venge originally.

In the normal ending, the sword is destroyed.
Presumably, the auras in it no longer have any hold over him.

Which means, if he -was- Venge, he would probably flip out and turn back into "demon-form" or whatever.
However, if he was just a normal wanderer to begin with, it'd make a whole lot more sense.

So Rhue =/= Venge.


Yeah but Fwacho also said that the real ending was the hardest to get. Which means its either Lexus or the Pits, unless Fwacho was being ironic.
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Postby Lady Phoenix » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:25 am

It's only a matter of time after this occurs and the weilder kills themself, dispersing the auras and destorying the connections made to them by the Shadow Sword.


By killing himself Traz broke connections to all other auras.
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Postby Thanatos » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:41 am

Asra wrote:
Requiem wrote:Rhue?
Not Venge originally.

In the normal ending, the sword is destroyed.
Presumably, the auras in it no longer have any hold over him.

Which means, if he -was- Venge, he would probably flip out and turn back into "demon-form" or whatever.
However, if he was just a normal wanderer to begin with, it'd make a whole lot more sense.

So Rhue =/= Venge.


Yeah but Fwacho also said that the real ending was the hardest to get. Which means its either Lexus or the Pits, unless Fwacho was being ironic.


Well, not that I particularly agree with Requiem, buuuut.... I strongly reccomend clicking the link below, if you haven't seen that post all ready.

http://www.crestfallen.us/phpBB2/viewto ... 5804#45804

I sometimes get the feeling that a lot of people have missed that post.
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Postby Imoto » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:27 am

No. What she says is that a person wielding the shadow sword can absorb complete auras to a high capacity, but after a certain point, the person's original aura is no longer strong enough to stay dominant over the other auras connected via the shadow sword, and is pushed out while all the other auras rush in to fill the gap. In Venge/Rhue's case, only one aura takes the place of the old one, and the last aura is subdued, or put back in the sword like Midian. Whether ot not the current dominant aura of the shadow sword wielder is still linked through the sword, or establishes a different link directly to the wielder is not established. Since Rhue is still pretty much Rhue in the basic ending, we can assume it does stick around, and links directly rather than through the sword.
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Postby dyyhpys » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:40 pm

You're wearing a silly hat yes, but what if they burn you're hat to and make you wear a really weird one?
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