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Postby Impossible » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:55 am

Actually, we could learn more about the nature of the Way, and with that Tetzel, in a prequel. It's just the fact that E5 introduced it and then it was dumped that annoyed me. But Rhue, Midian, Jeruh and Serena all need to be exclusive to these six episodes and there is simply no closure on them. It still doesn't make sense.
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Postby Wellsy » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:42 am

Impossible wrote:Actually, we could learn more about the nature of the Way, and with that Tetzel, in a prequel. It's just the fact that E5 introduced it and then it was dumped that annoyed me. But Rhue, Midian, Jeruh and Serena all need to be exclusive to these six episodes and there is simply no closure on them. It still doesn't make sense.

That's true. Maybe the point I was trying to make is that since we learned about Tetzel, the End of the Way, etc. through Rhue's eyes, it would be more satisfying to learn about their conclusion through his eyes as well, not through some kind of prequel that might seem more like a history lesson than as part of a dynamic story. And as you said, I don't find closure in Rhue's story at all, not to mention the rest of the characters.
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Postby Alundra » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:28 am

Strayed Wanderer wrote:On another note, I refuse to read Alundra's posts... they hurt my eyes to read.


Well; that's not a very nice thing to say, as i try to contribute to this forum as much as you guys try... I already suspected as much, cuz i've said things that might have solified your theories or even completed some of them... (aka the fact that ballar took the sword... i might know how but meh)
why do they hurt ur eyes? cuz of the color? copy paste it in word and make the text all black... or are they just too long? ... what about imp's post then? ... meh again, it's ur choise but i'd read it anyhow... :?
Ken~ says: I'll be a cop by then...
~Alundra~ says:All right, grand tour of china! drivin' around in a cop car!
Ken~says:You'll be wearing the uniform too?
~Alundra~ says:no u'll wear the uniform
~Alundra~ says:i'll just be sitting next to you going woeh woeh woeh ¨-^
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:20 am

It wasn't an insult, it's the truth. And if you want a reason for why it hurts to read your posts, you don't use capital letters at the beginning of sentences (if any of them actually end). It kinda makes it hard to keep track of ideas, you also lack periods, I may overuse "..." and commas but at least I end sentences.

Oh, and using u instead of you and u're instead of you're, that just makes me fall over in pain. I have nothing against you at all, I never said I did, it's just a waste to present any theory (aside from those about dippy) in such an unprofessional way.

Yeah, that all sounded kinda pricky but I just can't find a way to make it not sound that way.
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Postby Alundra » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:34 am

Okay, I can live with that! :wink:
You're pretty much right in everything you said anyhow.
One thing though, the u's are to go faster in typing... :P.
The reason why I'm so unreadable is because I tend to
trash everything that's clouding my mind about the way on
screen in one single post.
That way I forget about the other readers who obviously
are not in my head, so don't always see the connections
I think are so clear...
Meh, let's go on with the speculations.

I discovered something :!:
Lun 'stole' Rhue's character from another game. I do not know which
one, but I do own a ripped chipset from another game with a chara
on it that resembles Rhue like nothing else. It so happens that
figure is also on one of the rhue chara pages in the chara folder.
(It used to be at least in the older versions.)
Why do I mention this? Is the way nothing but a continuation of
an earlier 'real' game? Probably it has nothing to do with this
game considering the original character of Rhue used to be
different (he was on the marna stretch hidden away somewhere
in older versions, don't know if it's been removed-> Lun disliked
this character because it had a female body).
By the way, there's a 'new' Rhue character sporting other clothes
than his usual blue costume. It's green and brownish and has a
younger looking Traz on it too. I don't know but most of you said
that my avatar was just a regular npc too back then... Maybe this might
be an indication of a future Rhue or a prequel Rhue?
(either that or he's a dumped look for rhue alltogether.)
I'll try to upload that chipset if anybody wants me to...
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~Alundra~ says:All right, grand tour of china! drivin' around in a cop car!
Ken~says:You'll be wearing the uniform too?
~Alundra~ says:no u'll wear the uniform
~Alundra~ says:i'll just be sitting next to you going woeh woeh woeh ¨-^
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Postby Impossible » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:16 am

And a new topic on Estrana raised the whole question of how the Way works... It's that sort of thing I wonder if Lun ever knew in the first place. I don't mean to be harsh on him, I'm just still shocked that he would give the series such an unsatisfactory conclusion plot-wise as a whole. Far too much makes no sense. What seemed like foreshadowing deteriorated into apparent plot devices, or at least until everything is explained. Lun created a marvelous, magnificent idea for a world, but never even went into its mysteries. I'm just so confused that he would do this, because even Rhue's story doesn't make sense. Even if a prequel or something else has it makes sense, it won't be as satisfying. Tying up all the loose ends is one thing, doing it from the perspective of the character to whom all the loose ends made no sense in the first place would be much better.
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:03 pm

Alundra, now I just wanna hit you in the head with a rock.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:06 pm

Didn't we discover a game awhile back that did use half the way sprites? If I remember correctly they made traziun a girl or somthing.
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Postby Impossible » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:15 pm

Fwacho's hints of even MORE stuff we don't know about make me think that there really is more coming...
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Postby Dr. Casey » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:01 pm

Yeah, fwacho says that Traziun has some things in common with the people in Dream Estrana... but on the other hand, the fact that it comes from fwacho is really discouraging.
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Postby Telephalsion » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:16 am

I can't say it in the shape of the way topic, but if rhue's body is in fact kuras body, then that ledge in the end of ep 5 (landorin) might not be landorin at all, but rather, the place where kura and kava fought, and that's why rhue fixed that place as the place of the landorin massacre. when he absorbed jeruhs aura then jeruhs aura sought to repress what he had done, killing serena etc, so not only did he make up a story for it, but he also thought of a different place. and thus, kuras body has travelled one lap (or more) around the planet, otherwise you'd think that people lke dirk really ought to know about the really small size of the way :P
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Postby Impossible » Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:06 am

That would make some sense... Gaius says that Rhue has been around a long time. Kura was around long ago, so it sounds like a more realistic size for the Way to be. At least it makes sense that the End of the Way isn't Landorin now, something I thought was strange in E5.
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Postby Dr. Casey » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:54 pm

lol wtf

Gaius said that. He is the one with the BLUE HAIR lol rofl
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Postby Impossible » Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:13 pm

Shut up. >_> I could swear someone else said that Kloe said it, and I couldn't be bothered checking myself.
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Postby Impossible » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:07 am

fwacho wrote:Okay any more than that I might spoil something.


What does fwacho have to spoil? None of what he said is even TOUCHED in E6. Therefore, LUN MUST HAVE MORE PLANNED.

...But, Traziun is dead...

Edit:

fwacho wrote:E5 stuff guys for a quick review....
1. keep in mind Elyeshu died for finding out the "the truth" about "the end of the way".
2. Rhue and Gaius are standing on the Landorin Stretch.
3. What is Tetzel trying to acomplish...? and why are the Guided rebeling? and who is that leader coming to help the rebels?
4. How did Lyrra survive a blood lyn attack?
5. what was the cleansing Kalmar spoke of?
6. What happened to Traziun when he killed Kalmar? and can that be trusted, or is Kalmar lying to his son?
7. who is the "other"?
8. just how old is Kalmar? (traziun remarked "I see you are looking young as ever.")
9. Does Scatha really know Serena?
10 notice any forshadowing?
11. only a few Foot prints at Landorin massacre?
12 who was Midian looking for?

These are some good questions that must be answered by E6 or 7 any guesses?


What the fuck.

On one hand, it could be fwacho being a misleading dick. But on the other, half those questions are yet to be answered.
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