BETA TOPIC: The Theory Compilation (Spoilers)

[Strayed Wanderer]

I don't log anything... ever... which convo was it?

[Impossible]

For the record, I know that geniuses do not leave plotholes.

I don't remember much about the conversation now, but I know it was worth making a new topic for. Dammit, I should have saved it somewhere.

[cursethemountain]

The only guess at who those two figures (one dead, one either dead or moribund) with Phantom Slasher might have been is Kava and Kura. However, that's only because they're the only pair we know of associated with earlier atrocities by the sword. It seems likely to me that Kura murdered Kava a lot longer ago than the Landorin massacre, so the two people with whom Jeruh found the sword will probably forever remain nameless.

perhaps this is tetzel and eyashu?

tetzel killed eyashu and they are the shadowy figures.

[fwacho]

dang it took along time to read each and every post on this post. but you guys are doign well. Lun left most of the answers to many of "The questions" in the Way in E6. he through clues at you from every where. "4,8,15,16,23,42" anyone. Basically, the reasoning is this. Give them the answers but not on a plater. They'll value and enjoy thme more if they have to work a littel to get them. The answers are there. you just need a few keys to put the puzzle together (off course some puzle pieces are only found by understanding other puzzel pieces) Trsut me everything is very thoroughly thouhgt out. (P.S. Lun has changed his major to creative writing. If you have friends in California I would get them to play this game.)

Now to comment on the ton that has been said in no particluar order.


Impossible: You have actually stated one of the keys and not realized it nor it's implications.. good luck to you.

There is avery good reason Gaius is ambiguous, I just can't tell you yet.

Why would remorse destory a shadow sword?

How could Slade and Strata not have met, given their past?

Intereting ideas Fredrick

Why would Gaius and Midian both be hunting Jeruh?

I will admit that scatha and dirk have a lot not said about them the Lun used when putting the plot together.

what have you all learned about shadows? Seriously.

why does Rhue look like Midian?


Okay that answers a lot of you without offending anybodies intelligence. sorry i can't hepl more. I have yet to touch E6 in final form so I'm being careful.

[Escreon]

I think that before killing Jeruh, Rhue was Kura. I also think that Shadows Swords and Illuminati are the same thing...
I have some justification for this, and there's other stuff that I think, but right now I'm too tired to remember it.

[Telephalsion]

Why would remorse destroy the sword?

Lesse, that would in some way require the sword to have some form of mentality, obviously one that couldn't bear having the feeling or remorse.

[Flibbo]

Why would remorse destroy the sword?

Lesse, that would in some way require the sword to have some form of mentality, obviously one that couldn't bear having the feeling or remorse.

Maybe Traziun did a Neo and killed the sword from the inside out.

Hmmm... that was meant as a joke but now that i've said it, i can see a hell of a lot of simularities bettween Traziun and Neo. They both start out as fighters of average skill and then become incredibly powerful as the series progresses. They both destroyed their foe by commiting suicide.

Just as i suspected, Traziun is the one!

[Sage Of The Wise]

Why would Gaius and Midian both be hunting Jeruh?

This is really going out on a limb, but what if Gaius is Midian?

[Berserker]

Another random theory : Jeruh takes the sword from a spaced out guy. Now, do we know someone who loves his sword so much that he could just hunt anyone who tries to steal it? "Our" Rhue could be the one who originally had the sword (Gaius says "I think you have been around very much" so I guess he isn't Midian...). He had just killed someone and his aura was weirding him out, then Jeruh took his sword stopping his craziness. Then he wakes up... without his sword, and starts searching for the one who stole it. When he finds him, it's "the best day in my life." Then he kills Jeruh, and we all know what happened next.

Much of this teory is very random, but it could have some valid points... at least I don't think it has been said before.

[Sage Of The Wise]

I watched the ending again, and I noticed that after Rhue kills Jeruh, Jeruh's sword just dissapears when the screen flashes. I dunno what happend to it, but it doesn't look like Rhue ever picked it up.

[PsychicK]

I think Rhue was created by his sword sword. After Jeruh threw the sword away, either it stayed untouched, or someone found it, and then something happened to it. At the scene we see him hunting down Jeruh, Rhue looks quite mean. We don't know yet why Gaius helped him, but apparently the sword got Rhue (Which, again, was created by the sword.) to go after Jeruh, for some reason...

The problem with this theory is that Rhue of Landorin was made up AFTER Jeruh threw the sword away. So I don't have any idea what he was before. Perhaps he was simply the Phantom Slasher, with a bit of personality because of the many auras absorbed? The sword must have already absorbed many auras, because Jeruh's aura was the aura to go beyond the limit a man (Or whatever Rhue is.) can hold.

[Wellsy]

Give them the answers but not on a plater. They'll value and enjoy thme more if they have to work a littel to get them.

Geez, man, you must be freakin' tired . . . Unfortunately, at the end, there has to be SOME concrete evidence to confirm or deny those answers. For instance, even if there's some statement in what they're decoding here, then people will be going back and forth forever on what the hell it means. Answers, ultimately, have to come from the plot, from important or relevant plot events, not mashing things together from something one NPC said with what has been inferred someplace else.

And it doesn't really help that what I was interested in was the resolution of plotlines with Tetzel, Scatha, the Guided, the Blana Sera, the Purpose, etc. And if I find them, or anything else, out from some implied statement from somewhere else, that doesn't satisfy me. I wanted RHUE to find them out, since he was the one whose curiosity and whose stake in the answers about them got me interested in the first place, and it seemed the conclusion of his story would fit perfectly with the conclusion of the overreaching plot. Because at some point, it all has to end . . . so end it together with the character we care most about, Rhue. It's not satisfying at all if Rhue's off flying around somewhere with Lexus in his mind while Dirk and Scatha defeat Tetzel, is it? It cheapens the story. We need to find these things out from characters and events, not from decoding garbled event notes with whatever code. Not on a platter - how terrible would it be if Gaius explained EVERYTHING in one long cutscene? - but with some degree of certainty and relevance. Otherwise there's just more confusion and no real resolution.

Until the movie comes out, I guess.

[Sage Of The Wise]

The problem with this theory is that Rhue of Landorin was made up AFTER Jeruh threw the sword away.

Wait, Jeruh's exact quote was "I lost it... but I don't remember when or where. I just know that I changed my name to Rhue shortly after..." Does he meen he changed his name to Rhue shortlyafter getting rid of the sword, or after the massacre? If its the latter then he may have never gotten rid of the sword. And seeing how his sword dissapeared in a flash of light after his death, I'm willing to bet he didn't have any ordanary sword with him.

[Forerunner Traziun]

You know how Rhue sees Jed's flashbacks after he kills him, and same with Slade? It's pretty obvious that Midian was the headhunter that Rhue fought on the bridge. That night, he had Midian's flashback of him running through the forest.

[EmperorJeramyu]

...uhn...

Wow, how did we miss that? Good job.