Why is it that no one seems to realize that...

[Asra]

I think Rhue is the mimic AKA: Venge. Since the Lord of the Pits is in there along with all those demons AND that other city. You need to remember that once someone gets too many auras they usually go crazy and kill themselves, which probably releases all of the auras in the sword, though I'm not sure if that redhead mentioned that. So in his crazed Schitzophrenic travels he probably absorbed all those auras on his own. It also goes with how powerful and almost evil he seems at the end of the Reaches Ending.

Though who do you think gave Jeruh HIS shadow sword? Did that silouhette look familiar? Well in anycase he could've just killed someone important to him and have been freaking out, so Jeruk took the sword and blah blah blah. Otherwise Serena wouldn't be in Dream Estrana. I like to think the nameless blonde is Serena though, since it ties most of the things together better as well. Plus why else would she gave a face portrait?

The head hunter probably talked to Rhue weeks ago when he still thought he was Midian, which explains the whole "I'm gonna kill Jeruh" thing. Its never specified just how LONG he was Midian, and Gaius didn't really know him by the name Rhue, which probably means he met him as Midian too. Since the head hunter saw Rhue as Midian he would've called him Midian anyways, since thats what the Midian he knows looks like. That probably culminates when he finally kills Jeruh and gets mentally wanked again.

So yeah, in conclusion hes probably the mimic or Vende, made immortal by the Shadow Sword/Illuminati(Though being the son of the lord of the pits he might be immortal either way). He could've killed someone named Kura at some point and took his identity before Kava knew him, so he would think of Rhue as Kura, along with everyone else. Or at least this is how I see things.

[Cyberg-Ares]

Asra: Okay, once again, we've got ONE poem to base Mimic on. ONE poem. He isn't mentioned anywhere else in the entire series.

Oh, and as I said, the guys who gave Jeruh his sword, make good sense to be the two guys in room "M 2 O". But of course, not a fact at all.
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Although we know Midian is in the sword, we don't know whether it killed him, or he dies near it. But know, I truly doubt that Rhue ever WAS Midian, becauce, notice how Gaius never ever calls him Midian. He is always Rhue. Even in Gaius's thoughts. Remember the first time we saw Gaius, he mentioned to himself, how "Rhue" didn't remember the man they killed.

This could also be connected to how Gaius says interesting, when he asks Rhue where he thinks he is, when Rhue replies "the landorin stretch". I truly doubt Gaius wanted him to think that. Besides, couldn't he just have told him he was the PS, anywhere else? There is SOMETHING about that place.

EDIT: I found the part Gaius said in Ep.2. He wonders why Rhue didn't remember him, calls him Rhue, and wonders about the name "Rhue" "Wasn't that the name of...".

[Sage Of The Wise]

Asra: Okay, once again, we've got ONE poem to base Mimic on. ONE poem. He isn't mentioned anywhere else in the entire series.

Doesn't make it any less important.

EDIT: I found the part Gaius said in Ep.2. He wonders why Rhue didn't remember him, calls him Rhue, and wonders about the name "Rhue" "Wasn't that the name of...".

Rhue was the name of the guy they killed. Remember, Jeruh has been going was going by the name Rhue at that point.

[Cyberg-Ares]

Doesn't make it any less important.

But nothing indicates it to be important to begin with. He just copies people. That's all we know. Shadow Swords seem to do that, kinda, so that links it of course.

Rhue was the name of the guy they killed. Remember, Jeruh has been going was going by the name Rhue at that point.

I know.
My point was, that at the time Gaius and Rhue originally meet, it is guessed that Rhue goes by the name Midian. So why doesn't Gaius call him Midian or ask him why he calls himself Rhue?

[Strayed Wanderer]

The next time anyone uses the phrase "Why is it that no one seems to realize that..." or anything similar, when it has been mentioned several dozen times before, they should be banned for ignorance.

I see the same conversations repeated because no one reads the ones that were carried over.

[Requiem]

Perhaps this has been stated elsewhere, but...

The Red-haired Woman (Whom many think to be Traziun's mother) says, and I quote:
"WOMAN: Of course you aren't him... it doesn't matter what your face looks like."

This means several people have (possibly) mistaken Rhue for seperate identities based upon his looks throughout the course of many of the episodes.
Do the multiple auras within Rhue make him look different to different people?

Something to think about.

[Asra]

It seems like those poems are VERY important. Rhue comments on almost all of them, and the one about Venge and the shadow sword seems to draw his attention. Since when Sacrifa describes whats happened Rhue seems to have some knowledge of there. He basically says, "That doesn't seem to be whats happening."

The myth may have been false, and perhaps Venge(Rhue) was the one who harmed the Lord of the Pits, and since the Lord of the Pits is so powerful a small part of him was stuck in the sword, just as Slade was when he was stabbed, but lived on for awhile after it. It would explain alot, and mean that the poems and all of those weren't just there for "random filler without any meaning".

Nameless wanderer... Mimic... Lots of poems which all seem to revolve around the same thing, locked away in the sword which Rhue carries around.

[Shinami]

I would like quote the red haired woman in Ep6 about a few things concerning the Shadow Swords. Please remember that she mistook Rhue as the man out to kill her and even said that Rhue was always changing.

Woman:I know a man who's been in possession of a Shadow Sword for quite some time.I would guess that it has been in his possession for the last few hundred years.

She then explains that those who wield Shadow Swords do not physically age. She even says that the Shadow Swords can absorb powerful Auras that give the wielder of the sword incredible power *COUGH* *COUGH* Rhue's Transcendent Auras *COUGH* *COUGH* while forging a powerful bond with the original aura of the wielder. Now for the really interesting part.

Woman:Shadow Swords strongly bind themselves to the natural or as some say the original aura of the one who possesses them.The bonds become stronger and more intertwined the longer they remain. However, as the sword absorbs other auras it binds itself to them as well. These connections are very weak compared to the connections made with the original aura, but as more and more of them are made, the original/dominant aura's power begins to erode. After a certain limit the original aura's bonds to its soul and body are suddenly snapped and the other auras rush into the opening. The soul and body desperately begin to form new connections with the chaotic mass of invading auras which ends up driving the wielder into a state of multiple personality.

While we may have missed a vital clue to Rhue's origin, simply by watching the scene where "Rhue" confronts Jeruh and kills him, we see the dominant aura(Midian) was snapped from "Rhue" after "Rhue's" sword absorbed Jeruh's aura. Then we see Rhue walk upward from Jeruh's body while holding his sword and from there you can tell that was the start of Ep1. From there on, he living the lie that Jeruh constructed to avoid the truth that he killed Serena.

[Sage Of The Wise]

My point was, that at the time Gaius and Rhue originally meet, it is guessed that Rhue goes by the name Midian. So why doesn't Gaius call him Midian or ask him why he calls himself Rhue?

He doesnt ask Rhue why he calls himself Rhue because he figured it out on his own, and he never calls him Midian because it would answer a lot of questions, and Lun likes keeping things mysterious.

[Imoto]

Whether or not Rhue is the mimic is debateable, but it is fairly certain that they owned the same sword, and "Rhue" probably aquired it when he was originally Kura, after it had tainted into a shadow sword (Or partially tainted perhaps). As Kura, he ends up killing and absorbing the aura of Kava. He lives for a long time with his sword after that, until his aura breaks, HOWEVER, he still retains Kura's soul. This explains why you can't find Kura in dream estrana. The Rhue we know is likely the original soul, that is, Kura, and the fragments of Kura's aura, as well as whatever dominant aura there is around to complete the rest of Kura's personality. While Midian was extremely determined, and that made him dominant, Jeruh/Rhue was psychotically determined, making him the main dominant.

As for why there are none of the landorin kids in Kura's sword, he was never there when they died, that was a different sword that Jeruh had, but the sword fled Jeruh after Kura/Midian killed him, since shadow swords don't seem to be able to coexist. At that point, only Jeruh's warped aura was absorbed.

And as for Kura being mistaken for various people, it's because at some point he probably was those people for a brief time, despite always looking like the original soul (Kura).

The reason why Janwen is inside the sword as well as a ton of people from the time of the game's episodes and Kura's time, and the lord below and etc. is probably because the shadow sword simply retain auras until destroyed.

And of course the Phantom slasher is just a projection of the shadow sword's tainted base aura acting in self-preservation.

[Dy3000]

Just how many times exactly does "The Mimic" come up in the game anyways? Just once on a bookshelf? A few at most?

I think all you people are making too much of the idea of "The Mimic". It sounds to me like "The Mimic" is just a primitive story version that some wanderers used to describe what we know as Shadow Sword wielders who absorb auras and then start having the personality change thing.

The mimic disappearing for a time is also just kind of like how the Illuminati disappeared for a while.

I do believe that the physical body that we know as Rhue is actually Midian and the personality we know as Rhue is just a creation.

Also, has anyone ever thought that maybe those two figures in the forest from which Jeruh got his shadow sword; that maybe either one of them might be Kura or Kava or both, or Gaius? I can't think of logical explanation to tie it all together, but it's just this thought I can't get out of my head. After all, Landorin forests are supposedly grown from the place where Kava died and the Guided were massacred.

[Jasonflare]

I do believe that the physical body that we know as Rhue is actually Midian and the personality we know as Rhue is just a creation.

Not even possible, no proof(Actual) leads to this. Plus in E6 there IS proof that defeats this.

[Dy3000]

No there isn't.

Good discussion.

Also, I might have been inclined to believe that the headhunter in the start of EP1 was Midian, but the personality difference from Midian in dream Estrana seems too drastic for me to accept that.

[Asra]

Theres no proof proving that it is actually Midian. Theres alot more proving that its Kura. The fact that he was called it by Kavax, the fact that Gaius SAID hes been around awhile(Why would he lie?) all point to this. Midian's soul is in the sword because he was absorbed by it, pretty much pointing out that Midian ACTUALLY looked like that. He also has purple hair, while Rhue doesn't, even in the flashback. I doubt the sword would go so far as to change him, and theres no proof that any of the head hunters could "Read Auras".

Oh and since Kava called Rhue Kura, its obvious that Rhue looks like him, or else he would not be able to tell. Also, Kavax's poem about water refers to the Mimic and he told Rhue "You don't understand. But you will."

All of the people saying that Rhue is actually Midian's body don't have nearly as much proof as the proof pointing to Rhue being Kura.

[Dy3000]

But the only instance where Rhue is being called Kura is by Kavax, and that was in Dream Estrana where Rhue the "personality" was being called Kura and his personality is a jumble of everyone else's anyways. The supposed mother of Traziun also recognized Rhue but she has no relation to Kura. Rhue looks like somebody to someone everywhere anyways.

To explain the purple hair, I would think that the physical body of Midian was actually what Rhue looked like, and that purple hair was only "Rhue's" point of view inside his head as a sort of defense mechanism aginast the truth, but I'll admit that's not that great of an explanation, so I'm not that highly convinced myself that it's Midian

However, it also seems kind of a stretch to me to assume that Midian was killed at some point for a random reason we will never know. That just seems too stupid of a way for Midian to kick the bucket and conveniently end up inside the sword of the story. And also, who else besides Midian would say "I've waited for this day all my life" when killing Jeruh?

I think it's kind of silly for people call "inferences" for either side as "lack of proof" and inferences for the others as "proof" though.